{"id":6448,"date":"2025-04-09T15:19:32","date_gmt":"2025-04-09T15:19:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/?p=6448"},"modified":"2025-04-23T21:35:11","modified_gmt":"2025-04-23T21:35:11","slug":"episode-36-should-christians-celebrate-the-passover-seder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/2025\/04\/09\/episode-36-should-christians-celebrate-the-passover-seder\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 35: Should Christians Celebrate the Passover Seder?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Episode 35: Should Christians Celebrate the Passover Seder?\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/7DcFx5H7oWNR6CP3xHU9Yg?si=e6e05695c7f04bf1&#038;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/2025\/03\/29\/a-case-for-indoctrination-and-morals\/\">Previous Episode<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/2025\/04\/23\/episode-36-the-pope-died-a-lutheran-response\/\">Next Episode <\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Seder: from the Hebrew for Order. Refers to the service of Passover.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Haggadah: From the Hebrew for telling forth. Exodus 13:8: You shall tell your sons on that day\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/the-haggadah\">https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/the-haggadah<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>\u201cThe&nbsp;Haggadah&nbsp;, which means \u201ctelling\u201d in Hebrew, is a written guide to the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/the-passover-pesach-seder\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Passover seder<\/a>, which commemorates the Israelites\u2019 Exodus from Egypt. The Haggadah includes various prayers, blessings, rituals, fables, songs and information for how the&nbsp;seder&nbsp;should be performed. Although modern Haggadot (the plural of Haggadah) can vary widely, the tradition of reading a book to guide the seder dates back to the Middle Ages, and some of the elements that make up contemporary Haggadot were used 2,000 years ago.\u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201cinclude rituals like the blessings over the four cups of wine that will be consumed, the custom of washing one\u2019s hands, and an explanation for various traditional items on the seder table including&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/the-seder-plate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the seder plate<\/a>, which contains the bitter herbs and other symbolic foods.\u201d\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Even if some of these customs go back to Jesus\u2019 day, it is difficult to assume that Jesus would have followed them. The Pharisees were offended that Jesus did not wash before dinner (Luke 11:38ff), referring to ceremonial washing. And Jesus\u2019 disciples followed in His practice of not ceremonially washing before a meal (Matthew 15; Mark 7), which caused the Pharisees to condemn His disciples, to which Jesus responded by condemning their traditions. Even Jesus\u2019 first miracle was to desecrate six stone water jars for the Jewish rites of purification by turning the water into wine. While Jesus never broke the Commandments of God, He readily broke the traditions of the Jews, which He found hypocritical. It is hard to imagine that Jesus would have followed extra Biblical Jewish traditions concerning the Passover, even if they were practiced when He instituted the Sacrament.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u201cIn 1969, the political activist and rabbi Arthur Waskow published the \u201cFreedom Seder\u201d Haggadah, which drew comparisons between the slavery and liberation of the ancient Jews to contemporary struggles such as the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/jews-in-the-civil-rights-movement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">civil rights movement<\/a>&nbsp;and women\u2019s movement.&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.anotherqueerjubu.com\/StonewallShabbatSeder97004.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Stonewall Seder&nbsp;<\/a>is an LGBTQ Haggadah that began as a seder celebrated by the Berkeley Queer Minyan for Gay Pride Weekend. It has been updated and expanded by members of the B\u2019nai Jeshurun synagogue in New York. And because many modern Jews connect the themes of Passover with social justice, a&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/jewschool.com\/2015\/03\/36613\/2015s-top-nine-social-justice-haggadahs-supplements\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">number of social justice Haggadot<\/a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/supplementary-seder-readings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">supplements<\/a>&nbsp;speak to various communities and causes that might lie outside the Jewish community like the&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/ritualwell.org\/ritual\/blacklivesmatter-haggadah-supplement\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Black Lives Matter<\/a>&nbsp;movement, hunger, and labor justice issues.\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Pesach_Haggadah%2C_Magid%2C_In_the_Beginning_Our_Fathers_Were_Idol_Worshipers.2?lang=bi\">https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Pesach_Haggadah%2C_Magid%2C_In_the_Beginning_Our_Fathers_Were_Idol_Worshipers.2?lang=bi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Introduction to Christian Seder<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.crosswalk.com\/special-coverage\/easter\/how-the-symbolism-of-the-passover-seder-meal-can-enrich-your-easter-celebration.html\">https:\/\/www.crosswalk.com\/special-coverage\/easter\/how-the-symbolism-of-the-passover-seder-meal-can-enrich-your-easter-celebration.html<\/a><ul><li>\u201cWhat Is the Seder Meal? Elements and Symbolism The Seder meal is celebrated today through a 15-step communal feast. During the feast, participants eat ceremonial foods that are arranged on a Seder plate. Each food item is eaten in a choreographed order that accompanies sacred readings, ritual handwashing, and a series of interactive questions. Participants also partake in four cups of wine. Each step of the Seder is symbolic of some element of the Exodus, with the purpose of remembering God\u2019s deliverance. When we look at the Seder elements through the fresh lens of Christ\u2019s crucifixion and resurrection, it adds an intricate tapestry of symbolism that highlights God\u2019s masterplan for all mankind.\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Elements of Seder:<ul><li>Four cups: &nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianity.com\/bible\/search\/?ver=niv&amp;q=exodus+6%3a6-7\">Exodus 6:6-7<\/a>:<ul><li>&#8220;I will bring you out&#8221;;<\/li><\/ul><ul><li>&#8220;I will deliver you&#8221;;<\/li><\/ul><ul><li>&#8220;I will redeem you&#8221;;<\/li><\/ul><ul><li>&#8220;I will take you to me for a people.\u201d<\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><ul><li>Washings<\/li><\/ul><ul><li>Karpas-The Raw Vegetables<\/li><\/ul>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Yachatz- Breaking of matzah<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.crivoice.org\/seder.html\">https:\/\/www.crivoice.org\/seder.html<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Prof. Daniel Gard on the Christian Seder<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lutherorthodoxy.blogspot.com\/2023\/04\/the-passover-seder-and-lutheran.html\">https:\/\/lutherorthodoxy.blogspot.com\/2023\/04\/the-passover-seder-and-lutheran.html<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Jewish Rabbi on Christians Practicing the Sedar<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Passover seders are out of place in churches<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Next Saturday night, Jews will gather in our homes to celebrate the Passover Seder. This ancient ritual \u2014 involving song, ceremony and copious amounts of food \u2014 will allow us to recall and relive our ancestors&#8217; exodus from Egyptian slavery, and to renew our pledge to work as God&#8217;s partners in building a world of freedom and peace for all people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Seder, of course, is a Jewish event \u2014 an expression and celebration of the relationship between God and our people. This is why I find it so baffling that so many churches conduct &#8220;Seders&#8221; at this time of year. And as Christian events, no less!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The Last Supper&#8221; was a Passover Seder, they argue, &#8220;so our church Seder is a celebration of an event in the life of Christ.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The Seder celebrates God&#8217;s salvation,&#8221; they add, &#8220;and pursuing salvation lies at the very heart of Christianity. Our church Seder is therefore perfectly appropriate.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Neither argument works. For starters, the Last Supper couldn&#8217;t have been a Passover Seder, because the Passover Seder didn&#8217;t exist until several decades after Jesus&#8217; death. There were Passover&nbsp;<em>celebrations <\/em>during his day, of course, but the particular liturgy and ritual of the Seder was a response to the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple in the year 70, and it wasn&#8217;t finalized until sometime during the third century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s more \u2014 and to be perfectly honest \u2014 the Seder developed, in part, as an anti-Christian polemic \u2014 a &#8220;slam&#8221; on the then-new and growing religion called Christianity. Such religious critique is all but absent from contemporary Seders, but the anti-Christian roots of the event are unmistakable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A church Seder is thus a Christian event rooted in anti-Christianity. It makes about as much sense as a GOP rally for Barack Obama or a symphony boosters fundraiser for punk rock.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Furthermore, while it is true that the Seder celebrates salvation, it celebrates salvation as Jews understand it, which is quite different from the Christian concept.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Judaism, salvation happens here in this world, not in heaven; in Judaism, we achieve salvation through the performance of the sacred acts God commanded of us, not through belief; in Judaism, salvation is always collective and never individual. And it is this Jewish notion of salvation that the Seder celebrates \u2014 not the Christian one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Perhaps I shouldn&#8217;t be so critical. After all, Christianity was founded on a repackaging of Judaism \u2014 on new understandings of Jewish scripture and values. Christians turn to the Hebrew Bible as their &#8220;Old Testament,&#8221; after all. And while I disagree with many Christian understandings of the Bible, I can certainly live with, and even celebrate, their embrace of it as a sacred text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the Seder is different. It&#8217;s one thing for Jews and Christians to diverge in our understanding of certain elements of our shared past, as we do with the Bible. But, having chosen to leave the Jewish fold, it strikes me as disingenuous for Christianity to reach back into Judaism to co-opt Jewish rituals that developed only after we split.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Passover Seder is a delightful celebration. To see for yourself, ask a Jewish friend if they or someone they know might have an extra place at their Seder table this year. In all likelihood, there will be great food, terrific music and a warm, lively spirit around the table. Plus, unlike Christian events that go by the same name, this celebration will be a real Seder, a sacred Jewish celebration of our past and future journeys toward redemption.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Rabbi Mark S. Glickman leads Congregation Kol Shalom on Bainbridge Island and Congregation Kol Ami in Woodinville. Readers may send feedback to<\/em><em>&nbsp;<\/em><em><a href=\"mailto:faithcolumns@seattletimes.com\">faithcolumns@seattletimes.com<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Copyright \u00a9 2008 The Seattle Times Company<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>By&nbsp;Rabbi Mark Glickman<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Special to The Seattle Times<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/community.seattletimes.nwsource.com\/archive\/?date=20080412&amp;slug=glickman12m\">http:\/\/community.seattletimes.nwsource.com\/archive\/?date=20080412&amp;slug=glickman12m<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1 Corinthians 5:7: Christ is our Passover Lamb!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Does this mean that we should try to celebrate the Passover as the Jews, who rejected Christ did to learn about Christ? Or does this mean that we should learn from Christ what the Passover really was about? If we learn from Christ, we ought to do what Christ tells us to do in remembrance of Him.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Place of Sacrifice: <\/strong><sup>2&nbsp;<\/sup>And you shall offer the Passover sacrifice to the&nbsp;Lord&nbsp;your God, from the flock or&nbsp;the herd,&nbsp;at the place that the&nbsp;Lord&nbsp;will choose, to make his name dwell there. \u2026 <sup>5&nbsp;<\/sup>You may not offer the Passover sacrifice within any of your towns that the&nbsp;Lord&nbsp;your God is giving you,&nbsp;<sup>6&nbsp;<\/sup>but at the place that the&nbsp;Lord&nbsp;your God will choose, to make his name dwell in it, there you shall offer the Passover sacrifice, in the evening at sunset, at the time you came out of Egypt. <strong>Deuteronomy 16:2, 5-6<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Alfred Edersheim, The Temple, chapter 12: The Paschal Feast and the Lord\u2019s Supper<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ntslibrary.com\/PDF%20Books\/The%20Temple%20by%20Alfred%20Edersheim.pdf\">https:\/\/www.ntslibrary.com\/PDF%20Books\/The%20Temple%20by%20Alfred%20Edersheim.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>The Modern Ceremonies<\/strong> At present and for many centuries back the Paschal Supper has been thus laid out: three large unleavened cakes, wrapped in the folds of a napkin, are placed on a salver, and on them the seven articles necessary for the \u2018Passover Supper\u2019 are ranged in this manner: A roasted Egg Roasted Shankbone of a Lamb (Instead of the 14th day Chagigah) (Instead of the Paschal Lamb) Charoseth Bitter Lettuce (To represent the mortar of Egypt) Herbs Salt Water, &nbsp;Chervil and Parsley<br><strong>Present Ritual not the Same as the New Testament Times<\/strong> But, unfortunately, the analogy does not hold good. As the present Passover liturgy contains comparatively very few relics from New Testament times, so also the present arrangement of the Paschal table evidently dates from a time when sacrifices had ceased. On the other hand, however, by far the greater number of the usages observed in our own days are precisely the same as eighteen hundred years ago. A feeling, not of gratified curiosity, but of holy awe, comes over us, as thus we are able to pass back through those many centuries into the upper chamber where the Lord Jesus partook of that Passover which, with the loving desire of a Saviour\u2019s heart, He had desired to eat with His disciples. The leading incidents of the feast are all vividly before us\u2014the handling of \u2018the sop dipped in the dish,\u2019 \u2018the breaking of bread,\u2019 \u2018the giving thanks,\u2019 \u2018the distributing of the cup,\u2019 and \u2018the concluding hymn.\u2019 Even the exact posture at the Supper is known to us. But the words associated with those sacred memories come with a strange sound when we find in Rabbinical writings the \u2018Passover lamb\u2019 * designated as \u2018His body,\u2019 or when our special attention is called to the cup known as \u2018the cup of blessing, which we bless\u2019; nay, when the very term for the Passover liturgy itself, the \u2018Haggadah,\u2019 ** which means \u2018showing forth,\u2019 is exactly the same as that used by St. Paul in describing the service of the Lord\u2019s Supper! (1 Cor 11:23-29) * The words of the Mishnah (Pes. x. 3) are: \u2018While the Sanctuary stood, they brought before him his body of (or for) the Passover.\u2019 The term \u2018body\u2019 also sometimes means \u2018substance.\u2019 ** The same root as employed in Exodus 13:8\u2014\u2019And thou shalt show thy son in that day,\u2019 and from this the term \u2018Haggadah\u2019 has unquestionably been derived.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Concerning the 4 cups of wine: <\/strong>The same authority variously accounts for the number four as either corresponding to the four words used about Israel\u2019s redemption (bringing out, delivering, redeeming, taking), or to the fourfold mention of the cup in connection with the chief butler\u2019s dream (Gen 40:9-15), or to the four cups of vengeance which God would in the future give the nations to drink (Jer 25:15; 51:7; Psa 75:8; 11:6), while four cups of consolation would be handed to Israel, as it is written: \u2018The Lord is the portion of my cup\u2019 (Psa 16:5); \u2018My cup runneth over\u2019 (Psa 23:5); \u2018I will take the cup of salvation\u2019 (Psa 116:13), \u2018which,\u2019 it is added, \u2018was two\u2019\u2014perhaps from a second allusion to it in verse 17. In connection with this the following parabolic story from the Talmud may possess some interest: \u2018The holy and blessed God will make a feast for the righteous in the day that His mercy shall be shown to the seed of Israel. After they have eaten and drunk, they give the cup of blessing to Abraham our father. But he saith: I cannot bless it, because Ishmael came from me. Then he gives it to Isaac. But he saith: I cannot bless it, because Esau came from me. Then he hands it to Jacob. But he saith: I cannot take it, because I married two sisters, which is forbidden in the Law. He saith to Moses: Take it and bless it. But he replies: I cannot, because I was not counted worthy to come into the land of Israel, either alive or dead. He saith to Joshua: Take it and bless it. But he answers: I cannot, because I have no son. He saith to David: Take it and bless it. And he replies: I will bless it, and it is fit for me so to do, as it is written, \u201cI will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the Lord.\u201d\u2019<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Mishnah Account: <\/strong>Rabbi Gamaliel, the teacher of St. Paul, said (Pes. x. 15): \u2018Whoever does not explain three things in the Passover has not fulfilled the duty incumbent on him. These three things are: the Passover lamb, the unleavened bread, and the bitter herbs. The Passover lamb means that God passed over the blood-sprinkled place on the houses of our fathers in Egypt; the unleavened bread means that our fathers were delivered out of Egypt (in haste); and the bitter herbs mean that the Egyptians made bitter the lives of our fathers in Egypt.\u2019<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Herbs: <\/strong>A very interesting ceremony now took place <strong>(after the eating of bitter herbs and filling of the second cup)<\/strong>,It had been enjoined in the law that at each Paschal Supper the father was to show his son the import of this festival. By way of carrying out this duty, the son (or else the youngest) was directed at this particular part of the service to make inquiry; and, if the child were too young or incapable, the father would do it for him.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Breaking of the Bread: <\/strong>Pieces of the broken cake with \u2018bitter herbs\u2019 between them, and \u2018dipped\u2019 in the Charoseth, were next handed to each in the company. This, in all probability, was \u2018the sop\u2019 which, in answer to John\u2019s inquiry about the betrayer, the Lord \u2018gave\u2019 to Judas (John 13:25, etc.; compare Matt 26:21, etc.; Mark 14:18, etc.). The unleavened bread with bitter herbs constituted, in reality, the beginning of the Paschal Supper, to which the first part of the service had only served as a kind of introduction. But as Judas, after \u2018having received the sop, went immediately out,\u2019 he could not even have partaken of the Paschal lamb, far less of the Lord\u2019s Supper. The solemn discourses of the Lord recorded by St. John (John 13:31; 16) may therefore be regarded as His last \u2018table-talk,\u2019 and the intercessory prayer that followed (John 17) as His \u2018grace after meat.\u2019<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Third Cup:<\/strong> Immediately afterwards the third cup was drunk, a special blessing having been spoken over it. There cannot be any reasonable doubt that this was the cup which our Lord connected with His own Supper. It is called in Jewish writings, just as by St. Paul (1 Cor 10:16), \u2018the cup of blessing,\u2019 partly because it and the first cup required a special \u2018blessing,\u2019 and partly because it followed on the \u2018grace after meat.\u2019<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The service concluded with the fourth cup, over which the second portion of the \u2018Hallel\u2019 was sung, consisting of Psalms 115, 116, 117, and 118, the whole ending with the so-called \u2018blessing of the song,\u2019 which comprised these two brief prayers.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>The Supper in Our Lord\u2019s Time: <\/strong>\u2018When the hour was come\u2019 for the commencement of the Paschal Supper, Jesus \u2018sat down, and the twelve apostles with Him,\u2019 all, as usual at the feast, \u2018leaning\u2019 (John 13:23), John on \u2018Jesus\u2019 bosom,\u2019 being placed next before Him, and Judas apparently next behind, while Simon Peter faced John, and was thus able to \u2018beckon unto him\u2019 when he wished inquiry to be made of the Lord. The disciples being thus ranged, the Lord Jesus \u2018took the cup and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves\u2019 (Luke 22:17). This was the first cup, over which the first prayer in the service was spoken. Next, as in duty bound, all washed their hands, only that the Lord here also gave meaning to the observance, when, expanding the service into Christian fellowship over His broken body, He \u2018riseth from Supper,\u2019 \u2018and began to wash the disciples\u2019 feet\u2019 (John 13:4,5). It is thus we explain how this ministry, though calling forth Peter\u2019s resistance to the position which the Master took, did not evoke any question as to its singularity. As the service proceeded, the Lord mingled teaching for the present with the customary lessons of the past (John 13:12-20); for, as we have seen considerable freedom was allowed, provided the instruction proper at the feast were given. The first part of the \u2018Hallel\u2019 had been sung, and in due order He had taken the \u2018bread of poverty\u2019 and the \u2018bitter herbs,\u2019 commemorative of the sorrow and the bitterness of Egypt, when \u2018He was troubled in spirit\u2019 about \u2018the root of bitterness\u2019 about to spring up among, and to \u2018trouble\u2019 them, by which \u2018many would be defiled.\u2019 The general concern of the disciples as to which of their number should betray Him, found expression in the gesture of Peter. His friend John understood its meaning, and \u2018lying back on Jesus\u2019 breast,\u2019 he put the whispered question, to which the Lord replied by giving \u2018the sop\u2019 of unleavened bread with bitter herbs, \u2018when He had dipped\u2019 it, to Judas Iscariot.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Judas Iscariot:<\/strong> And then it was, after the regular Paschal meal, that the Lord instituted His own Supper, for the first time using the Aphikomen \u2018when He had given thanks\u2019 (after meat), to symbolise His body, and the third cup, or \u2018cup of blessing which we bless\u2019 (1 Cor 10:16)\u2014being \u2018the cup after supper\u2019 (Luke 22:20)\u2014to symbolise His blood. \u2018And when they had sung an hymn\u2019 (Psa 115-118) \u2018they went out into the mount of Olives\u2019 (Matt 26:30).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Final Takeaways<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>No Haggadah text for Seder known today older than tenth century.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Even if we were to know the actual Haggadah used at the time of Christ, it is very questionable that Christ would have used it.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>In the institution of the Sacrament, Jesus calls the cup the \u201cNew Testament\u201d in His blood, signaling the end of the \u201cOld Covenant.\u201d <strong>Hebrews 8:13<\/strong>: \u201cIn speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.\u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>When Jesus says, \u201cDo this in remembrance of me,\u201d He speaks of the Sacrament of the Altar, not a seder.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>It makes no more sense to celebrate a Seder than it does to perform any other animal sacrifice.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Because of the destruction of the temple, no Seder today is a replication of what Jesus did. The Jews reinvented the Seder in reaction to two historical events. 1. The destruction of the Temple, which significantly changed how the Seder was carried out. 2. The claim of Christ and His Christians that Christ is the true Passover Lamb. The foci of Jewish Haggadoth purposefully avoid Christ\u2019s fulfillment of the Passover.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Celebrating a Seder gives the false impression that a person is learning the historical context of the first Lord\u2019s Supper.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Celebrating a Seder does not bridge a gap with the Jewish community, but at best offends them, at worse, practices syncretism.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The best way to learn the great significance of the Passover is to hear the Gospel of Christ Jesus, the true and final Passover Lamb and to receive His body and the New Testament in His blood in the Sacrament of the Altar.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Seder: from the Hebrew for Order. Refers to the service of Passover. Haggadah: From the Hebrew for telling forth. Exodus 13:8: You shall tell your sons on that day\u2026 https:\/\/www.myjewishlearning.com\/article\/the-haggadah https:\/\/www.sefaria.org\/Pesach_Haggadah%2C_Magid%2C_In_the_Beginning_Our_Fathers_Were_Idol_Worshipers.2?lang=bi Introduction to Christian Seder Prof. Daniel Gard on the Christian Seder https:\/\/lutherorthodoxy.blogspot.com\/2023\/04\/the-passover-seder-and-lutheran.html A Jewish Rabbi on Christians Practicing the Sedar Passover seders are&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/2025\/04\/09\/episode-36-should-christians-celebrate-the-passover-seder\/\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[642],"tags":[667,250,697,698],"class_list":["post-6448","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-latest-bible-study-podcast","tag-bible-study-podcast","tag-james-preus","tag-passover","tag-seder"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6448","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6448"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6448\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6474,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6448\/revisions\/6474"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6448"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6448"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/christforus.org\/NewSite\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6448"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}